Just a lightweight watch. Looking for Live Segments on your Garmin Edge 1030? Are there any key settings you have off for the 2-3 day always on estimate you gave? I’m curious if you ever decided on a watch, as I am currently debating between these three (FR245M, FR645M and VA4) myself. are VA4/Venu/F645 going to make a difference? Yes 245 was top of my list originally, do you think GPS estimated elevation is still OK compared with altimeter hardware? What would be the best value for money ?? I assume they do still do it over ANT+. Yup, I typically cover elevation in my full reviews. Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? Did you get that the wrong way around. I rarely got more than 3 days out of my VA3 whereas the VA HR (2nd gen) gives me 5-7 days on average depending on how much I ride my bike. They are so close, but refuse to make “the” watch that people want. However where it really starts to get interesting is that you can create your own workout with Garmin Connect/Garmin Connect Mobile: Though, at present you don’t see the animations on the Vivoactive – but hopefully that’s where things end up. The Apple watch has now become an option as I’m going to have buy an old Apple phone to run Omniview as Omniview refuse to do a version for Android/Linux or Windows. You can use third parties alternatives like browser plugin Elevate or the site Runalyze, both free and auto sync with Connect/Strava. Log into your Strava account and verify the connection to have your workouts transferred when you sync your device as normal. I am unclear if the I set the watch to broadcast HR if i will get the HRV data to the edge 530 for things like Respiratory Rate. – Quick on the fly intervals If you really didn't want to spend big on a sports watch, the Amazfit Bip S and the sleeker looking Amazfit GTS (pictured) are well worth considering. And now I found this watch. I am looking at this (and possible the 245 but same question) and am unclear on how data from multiple devices is used in creating firstbeat metrics. I was waiting for Swiss Os based smartwatch since last year, it suppose to launch on the end of 2018 and one year later still no sign of any. I am doing basic walking, running, cycling activities, so I was wondering which could or rather should be my next smart watch. Should I wait for the VA4 or get the offer on the 645music? That means you get full Strava Segments, KOM and records. the post-workout heart rate monitor LED would still suck the life out of the battery. Seriously, this is extremely annoying! I’ll likely save that for a rainy day October thing. The only thing I want from it compared to the 3 is for it to natively support power meters. I’ll be returning this one and buying a Venu instead, once it’s available. – Added Estimated Sweat Loss post-workout I do hear that the altimeters can be quite variable too! The most common question I receive outside of the “what’s the best GPS watch for me” variant, are photography-esq based. Sometimes I forget to end my workout after a bike ride and the HR monitor continues to guzzle juice along with the GPS. And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. Completely agree. I wasn’t exactly keeping track). And it's in a special club of one because Strava is the only app with that privilege. It's dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, and in fact dual-Bluetooth Smart too, in case you need multiple connectons. So just to be clear, fenix 6 series will get yoga, pilates and breathing and everytging else? Given the unit pairs with ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart sensors, you can use just about anything though. It’s a nice touch, and really makes navigation so much more efficient. When I do my walking I don’t wear reading glasses so large fonts and visibility are very important to me. Get street cred for your sweat. In fact, I think the pending firmware update may have *caused* the battery issue, because I realized that it was “stuck” in a half-downloaded state in the Garmin Connect app, so I’m wondering if the app was constantly trying and failing to push down the update via Bluetooth. Heck, don’t say a certain watch doesn’t have the hardware for processing; let the Connect app do the work! » Garmin Venu with AMOLED Display: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know, » Garmin Vivoactive 4 Smartwatch In-Depth Review, » Garmin Venu GPS Smartwatch In-Depth Review, full long-term in-depth review of the Garmin Vivoactive 4/4S is over here, First Look: The 4iiii Fliiiight Smart Trainer, click here to Subscribe without commenting. Forerunner 735XT jest pierwszym zegarkiem do biegania Garmin, który oferuje funkcję Strava Live Segments i 5-letni okres próbny usługi Strava Premium. I’m hoping Ray or anyone with a VA3 or newer garmin watch can answer this. The following devices can detect when you land on favorited Strava Segments and display live progress, most importantly telling you how far ahead/behind your PB you are. The new HRM seems fine! Seriously, this will change your life. Hydration tracking widget is now available for the Vivoactive 3 series as well. Why it is not available on Fenix 6? On the other hands I like the stylishness of the vivoactive a bit more which is also comfortable (and looking good) when not doing sports and has a lot of lifestyle features like stairs, sleep,…. Hi Ray, any update on the vivomove review? Now the overall poses/animations concepts are essentially the same whether you’re in yoga, Pilates, cardio, or strength. Of course they’re early production but definitely not pre-production. Also, will try some day same settings with some original watchface, as now have nonstandart. Does anyone know if the vivoactive 4 will work with airpods? And with a newborn, things are just a bit delayed/wonky across the board. I looked up your previous posts on earlier versions of the Vivoactive: With strength training you’re also getting rep-specific information too. It looks rather difficult to choose between VA4 and 645M. Has it been supplanted by the Venu review? mikewsmith. I’ll ask. And normally at this point I’d be doing an in-depth review, but simply put, this product isn’t ready to ship. Minimum is 1.35″ now, but I will buy 1.39″ ~ 1.4″, no less, so my options are limited, but there are options and new one is coming very soon. Ok the UK, where I am, is about to commit suicide by leaving the EU but it would still be useful for everyone else in the EU. – Optical heart rate sensor in watch The concept was really nice. You can click here to Subscribe without commenting. There's no need to spend big, which is why we've presented options for every budget and level below. If we zoom into one, we do see the laggyness of the Vivoactive 4 & Venu optical HR sensors though: You can see the delay of both in comparison to the chest strap and Polar OH1, which more quickly adapt to the increased heart rate through each interval. Nothing special. I normally head to the mountains for my runs but I have never noticed any issues with elevation with the watches we use. You'll finally be able to run wild and free. Though you will have to pay for the luxury for some of Strava's best features like creating routes or seeing matched runs and rides data. Venu: $399, EU Pricing: Do the First Avenger and Captain Marvel models have the guts of the VA4 in a different package? I would buy Fenix 6X, but 51mm is to big at my wrist, although doable in worse case scenario. (the vivoactive 4 is the more expensive choice here since a used forerunner is around 220€, where a new VA4 is around 300€). “I can do this all day” – summarizes Cap’s attitude and is a great workout ethic. En Garmin, nos asociamos con empresas realmente increíbles que nos ayudan a hacer realidad funciones avanzadas e innovadoras diseñadas para que disfrutes más de tus pasiones y conseguir que estés encantado con tu dispositivo Garmin. So I tried locking the screen at night. Compare the specs and features of these three remarkable smartwatches head-to-head to know which is the best choice for you. The both the Polar M600 and the VA3 made the mistake of not including one, and they pretty quickly had to come up with software fixes. 18mm for the 40mm case version and 22mm for the 45mm version. Plus the bringing in bits like PulseOx and the new Sony GPS chipset from other watches. The name is changed to GarminActive/GarminActive S in China, maybe it’s a trademark issue. Beyond that one point however, it was pretty much spot-on the remainder of the time, matching where I ran each time. A little more far afield, presumably since the 2019 watches seem to have the same HR sensor they are all doing HRv under the hood, so would something like respiration rate suddenly be visible in my edge 530 (since firstbeat says it is an available metric) even if I can’t see that on the V4 watch? Can we please have a side by side comparison of the new VA4s, the VA3 and the F245/645? So, altitude and pressure, if You make a loop or couple of them, do You still “descend continously “? Featured in this comparison are three outstanding Garmin smartwatches; the Garmin Forerunner 245 Music vs 645 Music vs Vivoactive 4. However, syncing is manual – so we prefer using the third party Apple Watch app. Fortunately, pretty much any device rocking Google's new OS can get involved including the Fossil Sport. Here is my observation. I swim, bike and run. IOW they’re intent on not angering buyer of new release in the last 12 or 18 mnths, Can’t say I disagree..no easy answer and wherever you draw the line there will be haters lining up. No, unfortunately not. What about an updated barometer? Do these watches have a pre-defined (or user-adaptable) watchface that shows date+time, steps + climbed floors? This might seem nitpicky, but the low resolution really limits the amount of information that can be displayed on screen, and makes more complex watchfaces look quite ugly. Then Garmin silently changed some code and now the devices won’t synch anymore. Is the F245Music all we need? Imagine if your swim workout said ‘Repeat set 23 times’. It´s more an update then a real enhancement. My apologies if my questions is off-topic and thank you in advance for your responses. If he does not, then Garmin seems confused given the “S” in the fenix line is the smaller variant. Any chanced they’ll show up? When will you update the Product Comparison Calculator with the latest Garmin watches: VA4 and Venu? The vívoactive® 4 GPS smartwatch has built-in sports apps, VO2 Max for fitness monitoring, Garmin Pay™ contactless payment solution, and more. So why is there no review on this watch yet, are there problems with Vivoactive 4, maybe with HR sensor like on fenix 6? Thanks all on the sizing catch! But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? To pair the two services, just log into the Polar Flow web account, head to settings and opt to connect the Flow account with Strava. So connecting Garmin Connect and Strava does give you the best of both worlds. The screen on VA4 is it more crisp and clear then VA3. run) and go to it’s settings. I have tried the strengh workout creator before on Garmin Connect web for my Instinct and even if it works better than the complicated process of exporting Strengh workouts created on Training Peaks to the watch (tip, you need to add the planned workout to your calendar and then reclassify it as a “Walk”) wich sometimes give you just strange codes instead of the names of the workouts or reboots the watch, It is pretty limited on the exercises included. Are there ever issues with swiping through screens or ending workouts when you’re drenched? I went ahead and ordered a Vivoactive 4S. with that 2 hour workout and Ox monitor at night I got remaining around 25% now in 36 hours. Yikes. Oddly, the Garmin website shows the Vivoactive 4 as having an estimated availability of 5-8 weeks, whereas the Vivoactive 4S shows as being immediately available with a 1-3 day processing time. Firstbeat pages for the V4, 245, and Edge 530 respectively: My budget is 1.200$ roughly. For example I ordered a Vivoactive 4S (direct from Garmin) last night for my wife and it shipped this morning. Have the same problem. I know it’s subtle and hard to quantify, but I’ve always found the vibration alarm of Garmin devices very … abrupt. No ECG, no offline maps, no Sapphire , Titanium, no LTE… You can also have sessions recorded in the Apple Workouts app synced to Strava, and this can be done by connecting Apple Health from within the Strava app. Vivoactive 4/4S US Pricing: $349 Yeah, I think so. So you know you are getting an accurate GPS when purchasing a Garmin watch. Sorry for the dumb question, probably it was discussed before, does VA4 have ANT+? possibly the sharper screen on the Venu and ohr for swim. Also note that like the two Venu & Vivoactive 4 watches, my two posts on these watches at this point are incredibly similar. Link: link to garmin.com. I tested Garmin Fenix 5 series several times and 1.2 ” screen with offline topographic maps is completely useless for me and all of my friends, so I don’t see a point from Garmin. From the Garmin Connect mobile app: If your Garmin device is Bluetooth-enabled, you can download the Garmin Connect mobile app, create a Garmin Connect account, and link to your Strava account by going to Settings > Partner Apps > Strava. Maybe I wanna add certain features a-la-carte. Do you think there will be a possibility to use the bottle again? Has Garmin improved the durability of the heart rate sensor plastic? The trend is clear and 1.4″ display is going to be norm next year IMO. Garmin Swim 2; Live Segments are only available for riding and running activities. It's become my go-to speed sensor. On to what makes the Garmin VivoActive 3 AWESOME! My Vivoactive 3 got worse over time with buggy software updates which killed HR performance. However sometime I need to wear something more suit friendly and wanted a device to wear on my right wrist to track data and update via TrueUp. Typically, Garmin’s estimated sweat loss is anywhere from 2/3 to half of my weight-based sweat loss. I think it likely depends on the popularity of which model you chose. Garmin MARQ Expedition. 47 mm would be perfect with 1.4″ display. Also you have a studio in Amsterdam, is this a shop? Is the screen any better on the 4 vs the 3? Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Garmin Forerunner 35: $134.99 | Amazon | Garmin, Garmin Forerunner 45: $199.99 | Amazon | Garmin, Garmin Vivoactive 4: $349.99 |Amazon | Garmin. Good to see Garmin continuing to evolve these and make updates and new workouts. A couple of years ago I bought the Ozmo smart bottle to track my hydration, back then the bottle and Garmin connect would synch. Thanks for all the help, as a result I now understand what I need in a training watch, which looks like its going to be Vivoactive 4! Are you planning to release an in-depth review of the Garmin VivoActive 4? There's still limited customisation of the data faces, and you can't view workout history from the watch itself, but much of what makes Strava worthwhile is provided through the companion app, so we don't consider this a reason to avoid the smartwatch. I had to ask a replacement unit twice and I ultimately returned it; I am still using my old vivoactive 3. Today Garmin announced the new Vivoactive 4 & 4S watches, within a pile of different color/material variants. So with all that listed, let’s get straight into the newness. Like you could on the old VivoActive HR, where you got the top/default activity type. So Cup #1 could be an 18oz bottle, cup #2 could be an 8oz cup, and cup #3 could be whatever else you want. My VA3 consistently reads negative altitude in San Francisco (currently reading -174 feet). Also, did they do anything to improve the self-lock and “my watch turns into a vampire and changes automatically during the night and other stories of the crappy touchscreen’ issues yet? – Added Breathwork Exercises (way different than simple breathing stress features) VA3 did around 12%. So other sports activities would also be in my range as amateur and fun sports like. I wouldn’t even consider it a contender if golf wasn’t there. Though if memory serves me right, Garmin was quick to reduce VA3 prices after launch in a couple steps. I note in the specs that the swimming features include “underwater wrist-based heart rate”? Ughhh, I see that Garmin are still insisting on having Golf as a baked-in activity that can’t be completely removed. If yes, I hope they made better use of it in sw, like being able to use it for volume, while on the music “main page”. I am upgrading from my VA3 and I was aiming for a VA4 (which is probably the best fit for my needs). Pretty much all of Garmin's watches are built to play nice with Strava, from budget watches like the, And after initial accuracy issues, this can now be considered a strong addition to the watch's third-party mix, Just like Garmin, Polar makes sure that watches like the, Best Strava compatible heart rate monitors, Best waterproof smartwatches to buy in 2021. The Wear smartwatch packs in built-in GPS, heart rate and crucially, a run-friendly design. But it’s not like I’ll be a pro runner in any way, just focus a bit more than just “put my shoes on and leave the house 3 times a week”. At $349USD – that’s basically a $100 more than the Vivoactive 3 Music is going for these days. I can´t transfer workouts / trainings designed in Garmin Connect online / Mobile to the 4s. First of all, thank you for all reviews! It’s as simple as that. I really like the additional stats the forerunner can get (especially with the dynamics pod). Brand new out of box fully charged ,Battery lasted less than 15 hours, Full charge again at 3pm removed any watch face apps 64% at 7am next day, Garmin advised to monitor and contact again ,Really disappointed sending back Most (all?) I was looking forward to this watch until I saw the price. 299€ in Germany for the 645music and the new vivoactive 4 will be pirced the same (big version in grey). This is why I returned my va3… Garmin said this is a non issue but I’ve bought on Amazon and they let me return it. Since it’s got barometer, can you tell me whether 4/4S supports Garmin’s Running Power App (and other running dynamics for that matter) through RD-Pod/HRM-Run/Tri? Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2: $279 Amazon. But some Garmins are more Strava-friendly than others. Ray has said previously that PacePro is not coming to the 645. You can see for this short 27 minute run, it was 163ml of liquid (lower right hand corner of right screenshot): Ultimately, I suspect for most customers of the Vivoactive series units, this probably isn’t too much of a concern. Good post, thank you very much. And after initial accuracy issues, this can now be considered a strong addition to the watch's third-party mix. link to firstbeat.com Looking around at firstbeat, i saw that Vivoactive compared to 245 (which I was keen to buy) has many features missing. Seems legit to me and better than the side, where Garmin tried to fix it at the music edition. Folks coming from other Garmin watches will find it far more natural too: The upper right button is the start/stop/confirm/enter type button, whereas the lower right button acts like a back/lap/escape function. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Yes! Keep in mind the graph directly above makes this look much longer than it really was, so be sure to look at the timescale. Unfortunately non of fbbrown apps work, all freeze, need to restart the watch. Click above for all the details. For more information, go to www.strava.com. Both of us love running, and we mainly do it around Dublin (Ireland). I am waiting it before purchasing one unit. For example, if i understand correctly, garmins Training Load score is based on how taxing a workout is based on EPOC (Excess Post exercise Oxygen Consumption).
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