Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … That being said my 3700x runs great, I just wish I trusted any motherboard bios enough to use anything beyond the default cpu profile. The default balanced profile was tested, I believe. The gpu doesn't stress the chipset unless you run multi-gpu depending on the board. I was thinking of getting the MSI carbon, but would rather save the money and get the Elite as long as future overclocking won't be an issue... [–]watlok3900x / 2070 Super 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (1 child). At last, someone did this! Around Same temps on cpu in game as well. I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. Power; Cooling; Memory & Storage; Power … In the case of games, only the engine itself would be open source, not the assets of course. You may also want to use /r/AMDHelp and /r/TechSupport. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (1 child). The chipset fan on my X570-E Gaming is pretty silent as far as I am aware. [–]ShadowHawk045 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child). Straw and Reddit polls are simple questions resulting in a yes/no answer or soliciting another ballot-type response. Just to clarify: we didn't get any coil whine on any of these boards (or any in general really). High Durability . [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). Almost no room to do anything and beneath a hot GPU. But it's a good question. [–]lystig 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). does it ramp up fan speed during load like gaming? Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. but we need to start planing past that .every other tech has change now but for that. [–]jharelR7 3700X | ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 | RTX 2070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]ltron2 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (6 children). Originally, patents were supposed to protect manufacturing processes, so for example, TSMC's 7nm fabrication process, could be protected, but you shouldn't be able to patent like an instruction set, which in a way is kind of like an API for hardware. My fan never comes on, idle temps around 50-55. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (1 child), Imo someone should've just ditched the 3rd full length pcie slot for extra area to get passive cooling. [–]siluah 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]510Threaded 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children), Let's not stress their poor intern anymore than they already are, [–]yx1 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]le_dy0 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children), I wonder if Asus will update the BIOS so we are able to stop the fan while in idle, [–]Admixues3900X/Master/RX VEGA 56 PULSE (Hynix HBM @945) 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]sudo-rm-r3700x | 2080ti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 2nd: It's much more complicated, and very much distance related. I'd say the Aorus Elite is actually one of the most balanced entry X570 boards on the market. System Name: Best AMD Computer: Processor: AMD TR4 1920X: Motherboard: MSI X399 SLI Plus: Cooling: Alphacool Eisbaer 420 x2 … [–]maha420[] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). This is literally why I chose the Gigabyte Master x570 board over everything else as I saw this discussion playing out on their message boards. Saying it's a "matter of time" is vague since it could also just be like 30 years. [–]ltron2 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children). Can't hear it and my case is pretty quiet already. There wouldn't be much point in stressing a GPU in the CPU lane slots right? I am just going to get the max boards when they arrive. Pcie 4.0 1st slot gpu lanes go straight to the CPU. [–]yqtyyz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). I just realised you said VI Extreme, which is X370, and which I really wouldn't recommend at this point no matter how 'high end' it was 2 years ago. Transmeta actually used a bit of a loophole; they designed a chip where the silicon didn't violate any patents, but they had a type of VM or whatever that ran I think on the system BIOS which emulated x86. Rule 3: Be civil, no religion or politics - remember the human, be civil and follow sitewide rules; brigading, personal attacks, mass mentioning users and the use of slurs are not allowed. Most startups would not want their early days of business to be marred in legal troubles, so in practice we're not likely to see any competitors in the x86 arena anytime soon. That often has a way of swaying things in a more progressive direction. The only reason x86 is CISC is for backwards-compatibility, and most modern x86 processors actually have a RISC-like microarchitecture with microcode that gives you the x86 ISA; this has been the standard design since the Pentium Pro back in the 90s. It's a good thing they did... As for 2 Gen 4 SSD's, we would have tested if we could have, but we only have the one Gen 4 SSD so far. Nope, since i have the X570 no other fan sounds loud as its fan. I have the x570 Master. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). This is a big help! I had no idea. Slightly nuanced would be 'ASUS/ASRock should probably add a fan stop' and 'Fan stop might push your decision if you're not entirely sure'. Rule 10: Exception to the Rules - The mods of /r/AMD reserve the right to allow posts/comments that could break any of the rules, when a situation has arisen where the post is funny, educational or useful to the users of /r/AMD. Next thing, VRM fans. Welcome to /r/AMD; the subreddit for all things AMD - come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. I can't speak to the longevity of the chipset fans, but if its not even spinning for the vast majority of the time I can't imagine we'll see many failures during the working lifetime of the board. I just don't see what it adds over the X570 Elite other than WiFi. [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children), Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VI EXTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children). [–]BubbleCast3950x || 1080Ti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). It would be far less difficult than trying to get a third major amd64 CPU designer to enter the market. How often does the fan need to be on (assuming just one or two SSD)? Short version would be: Aorus Pro > GPC > Elite >>> Gaming Plus. I've not stumbled upon it yet. [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 152 points153 points154 points 1 year ago* (50 children). Considering the minor differences in temps when stressing them, the chances of 2 SSDs in a normal use case causing more heat are slim Id say. stuff that not been used in 30 years. BenchmarkX570 Chipset Fan Noise Comparison - Who makes the quietest X570 motherboards? New Cyberpunk patch 1.05 actually makes performance worse on AMD 8 core CPUs? [–]pbkoden 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (11 children). I picked up an X470 C7H just in case, and it looks like i'll be returning that.My case fans are Noctua running 535rpm, cpu sits at mostly 600rpm-1000rpm (gaming load - noctua NH-D15). Cyrix showed that it was possible to make a compatible CPU without infringing on patents and won a lawsuit Intel had filed against it that had claimed otherwise. Watch the video you'll get noise. If you have a question regarding the way a rule was or was not applied to a particular post or comment, please message us via modmail. Also, I picked the 1080ti used aswell, couldn't be more happy since it is one of the best and affordable cards atm in my opinion. Clock speed is only part of the equation. [–]yellowpasta_mech 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). There's also the fact however that if Linux were mainstream, perhaps we wouldn't have this issue in the first place. With some PC builders upset that the X570 motherboards utilize a fan-assisted chipset heatsink which could potentially add unwanted noise to the … Awesome suggestion, duly noted. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (5 children). 1) The X570 chipset has a fan - but basically all of the X570 range except the halo-tier boards have a chipset fan. Remember when nVidia nForce was a thing? There's still not a single white X570 board available, which is plainly ridiculous. Like do the mobo manufacturers really think for a second we're stupid enough to believe that active cooling is required to dissipate 15w? Thus far there really isn't anything else other than Intel, Nvidia and AMD. I had to set the fan speed to Custom and set up a curve with the duty cycle set at 0 for lower temps. On Asus, ASRock & Gigabyte the fans is fully or partially covered with a big graphics card. But in all seriousness, the chance of you hearing this are slim unless you get a case with terrible airflow making the fan spin up. Wow, that explains a lot. If a manufacturer could get wifi, 3 storage m.2s, and passive cooling for ~$250 they wouldnt be able to keep up with demand at all. ps3,360 then port to pc. [–]Chrushev 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I found no video that shows the bios on that motherboard. Pictures of boxes are not allowed. Variance between the boards of a given brand is small. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. Whether thats doing the same thing on more boards, or changing it up with another system if there are good arguments for it, is not set in stone. Dual ball bearing or not, if you can -not- run it 75% of the PC on-time thats a huge win. Just got a 1080ti installed in my Aorus Elite with a 3700x and I can confirm the bottom end of my card hits my chipset fan cover a little bit. So much competition in motherboards, yet so little competition in GPU and CPU markets. Joined Jun 22, 2008 Messages 91. I'll say that, MSI did an excellent job with their chipset placement, intentionally imo placing it significantly lower on the board to prevent that. for us PC users it's going to take a while to convince us maybe X86 will remain to be the advanced user platform. 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). in fact my whole build is pretty silent which makes me happy, [–]bluefisch200AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | MSI X570 GPC | EVGA RTX 2070 Super XC Ultra 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children). I have a Pro X570-A. [–]thermiderp 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (4 children). For reference, ~40 dB is the sound level of a dishwasher... idk about you guys but I wouldn't want dishwasher-level noise coming from 1 tiny fan in my room while I'm gaming, [–]MrInYourFACE 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). Before the BIOS that had that setting, the fan noise was driving me insane. In the end after all appeals, the courts ruled that Cyrix had the right to produce their own x86 designs in any foundry that held an Intel license. Mainly because the fan almost never spins. I woulden worry about fan failure unless you have the board for like 8 years or more. [–]Cacodemon85 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). (youtu.be), submitted 1 year ago by Foritain-Techtesters, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 47 points48 points49 points 1 year ago (19 children), On behalf of Nada who made this video: if there are any questions, just ask :), [–]ltron2 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (8 children). The all-new design is a testament to GIGABYTE's dedication to design quality. Thanks for this, mine isn't arriving until Monday (went too fast at checkout and ended up with EggSaver that didn't even leave Newegg until Tuesday night) and this will help me sleep at night :). My god, all that information flowing! [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). I use mine with no fan until 70c, for non-gaming passive use it usually sits around 67-69 but I've seen it get to 70 as the highest. Personally I'd take the Aorus Pro I guess, but honestly you get to a point where you can let looks decide. Otherwise you cant hook up your case's type-c port. Maybe the X670 will go back to passive? Considering most people covet noctua/bequiet fans that are on the level of 20ish dB (at max), this is quite significant. What about the CISC x64? I would prefer a proper beefy heatsink if needed. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. 3rd: A decent case has nothing to do with it. Rule 2: No referral or affiliate links - referral or affiliate links are not allowed. Without audio or video of the actual fan noise, this video doesnt help me at all. AMD Ryzen: Gain of every Zen generation on application and gaming performance, Thank you AMD for open source drivers - with their magic combined with Proton, Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux. [Cyberpunk] To the people claiming the SMT-Fix on 8 core CPUs is just placebo: I did 2x9 CPU-bottle-necked benchmark runs to prove the opposite. This also includes products that rely on AMD technologies, such as motherboards and Freesync Monitors. On the bright side, LLVM updates would result in the software on a machine becoming faster. No idea what you're saying "no" too. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. It is a rather tenuous path to take. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That last option is only slightly less invasive than entirely switching to a different CPU arch though. I just wanted to say great video. with the standard size like 40mm x 40mm or 60mm x 60mm? Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. As another commenter pointed out, it's not all about clocks, we'll have to see the IPC of the final product to judge whether it's competitive with AMD and Intel's offerings. Breaking this cycle would require one of three things: either AMD and Intel agree to freely license their patent portfolio openly under FRAND terms (will probably never happen); there could also be patent reform which addresses problematic rent-seeking or monopolist patenting behavior; or lastly, around 2024 or so, someone could actually try to make an x86-compatible CPU, but have completely incompatible instructions for things like AVX, that wouldn't violate patents, but this means compilers would have to be modified to optimize for both instruction sets, and switch at runtime between different codepaths depending on the CPU, and with enough pressure, maybe eventually we'd be free of the x86 duopoly. At the moment, on my x570-e board the fan speed control for the chipset fan is not present. I set the fan to 0 duty cycle which stopped it fully and the system noise stayed the same while chipset temps (in HWinfo, since this tool doesn't seem to acquire the chipset temp value) started climbing so it definitely was off. [–]d2_ricciwaits on 3800X | AMD VII 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (7 children). Not really required to run 99% of the time. Cause then chipset really starts to heat up. lol, another gadget to think about. I've read a lot of complains around here about them beeing slow on updates. Eh, I wouldn't praise the motherboard market too much. I've heard that it's there since there's no thermal throttling support in the silicon, to prevent burn-up in run-away scenarios. AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX mobile APU in Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE exceeds 4.7 GHz and outperforms Intel Core i7-10700K desktop chip in Geekbench. Using HWinfo to monitor my max temps, I've only hit 55 C max on my chipset. Aura Sync. To be fair it's rare for it to spin up period. 1 year ago. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. If you believe your post should be an exception to the rules, please message the moderators before posting it. This spreadsheet is excellent: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview?sle=true, [–]yqtyyz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Thank you for this chart! First time building a pc, picked up a 1080Ti from some I knew who upgraded, and planning on Ryzen 7 3700x, what would be the best motherboard for me to pick up in terms of performance/noise? X570 Chipset Temperatures and Fan Noise. How about these $500 motherboards invest in a decent copper heatsink rather than aluminium trash and a $0.10 fan? I certainly don't think it'll happen anytime soon. Got my Aorus x570 Master motherboard and will be replacing the x570 chipset fan with Watercool's Heatkiller NB/SB chipset Waterblock. I think so. LLVM supports every bytecode version from 3.0 onward: http://releases.llvm.org/7.0.1/docs/DeveloperPolicy.html#ir-backwards-compatibility. [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]fareszrR7 3800X|CROSSHAIR VII|GTX1070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children), What about via? [–]Jyiiga 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children). It might start a trend where at least the source code of projects would be opened up, and then distros could have binaries for different architectures in their repositories. That and the fact that they seem to care about community outreach. Zero compatibility issues, good fan profiles, great feature set, and I'm pretty sure gigabyte has had the AB bios update for a few weeks now so they've been really on top of bios updates so far. I've got an Asrock X570 Steel Legend and I don't hear the fan on it at all, but it's in a Fractal Design R4 and I'm not using anything that would make the chipset get hot. Which slots did you use for load testing, because the main pci-e slot and the main nvme slot don't utilise the chipset at all, they are connected directly to the CPU. [–]babugz 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (5 children). A better question would be whether a dynamic library with bytecode from one version and a program linking to it that was compiled under a different (likely earlier) version would work. Oct 27, 2017 4,476. Don’t be facetious... it’s a perfectly valid concern. But which board has the best passive cooling? The only thing this sound level would "quiet" for is a dishwasher. Know a solution? Wouldnt worry about that tbh. [–]xMEECH08x 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]nwash57 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]pbkoden 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Press J to jump to the feed. There's just one issue, and that's the PCH fan, it's pretty damn loud! We'll have some X570 builds in the coming weeks, we'll at least see if some interesting data pops up to dive into that further. Who knows... [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (2 children). Gigabyte flaunts its fleet of X570 motherboards, including the passively cooled Aorus X570 Xtreme :OCheck out our sponsors. Is the chipset fan being right in line with where your gpu would sit an issue? Could probably be achieved with bios update, let's hope they do so! For other extensions just check Wikipedia. Personally I think it's only a matter of time before ARM Replaces X86. VIA is actually owned by a pretty large conglomerate, but it seems they've been content to stick in embedded markets. Seriously this annoys me so much. I mean, explaining the details is really complicated. Use so much power and add noise. No more VIA etc. Then again, so far with a couple of built X570 systems (including an NZXT H510 with a X570 Elite next to me right now) chipset temps have simply not been an issue at all. The finstack on the Aorus Pro is actually very nice. [–]TIK_GT 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Acreddo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]htt_novaqi5-3570k @ 4.3 / Vega 56 @ 1540 UV 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Wellhellob 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]wawa_springwaterAMD 3900X | Asus Crosshair VIII Formula | 2080Ti Hybrid 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children). Mind you, I dont think the GPC is a bad board at all, I've got it here and it looks great and the VRMs dont heat up at all. GB is not my favorite brand but they are in my top 3. I thought the auto fan-off feature was standard across the board[s] (pun intended).

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